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Design Anatomy
Welcome to Design Anatomy, where we examine the world of interiors and design. With a shared passion for joyful, colour-filled, and lived-in spaces, Bree Banfield and Lauren Li are excited to share their insights and inspiration with you.
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Design Anatomy
Unhinged Design Predictions For 2026
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Predictions are only fun when they’re a little risky, so we’re putting our names to a future that feels warmer, braver, and far more liveable. We share the moves we’re already testing with clients—laminate countertops that look sharp and wear hard, wide-blade Venetian blinds in fresh powder-coated colours, and coloured stained glass that solves privacy without killing natural light. The goal isn’t shock value; it’s designing homes that work for real life and still make your heart skip when the sun hits just right.
We dig into how the shift to home hangouts is changing the brief: bigger, deeper sofas for sprawling chats, modular layouts that flex, and conversation pits for the bold. Comfort beats perfection, which flows straight into our stance on lighting—no more default downlight grids. Instead, we advocate layered ambience with wall washing, table and floor lamps, and targeted accents that flatter texture and art. If you’ve ever wondered why your room feels harsh at night, this is the fix.
Texture and detail are back with a wink. Tassels, trims, and fringing add personality to drapes, cushions, and lampshades without tipping into fuss, while mirrored walls return when treated as architecture—full-height, neatly gridded, reflecting views and borrowing light in narrow halls or entries. We also unpack colour with a hot take on avocado green: pair it with warm timbers, mustard, brass, or even cobalt blue for a striking balance that dodges the 70s hangover.
Threaded through it all is a mindset shift: design slow, source with intent, and let spaces evolve. We talk about resisting the fast before-and-after cycle, chasing the right vintage mirror for months, and staying open as a scheme grows. If you’re ready to host more, stress less, and build a home that feels collected instead of completed, this one’s for you.
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Warm Welcome And Housekeeping
SPEAKER_01Welcome to Design Anatomy, the Interior Design Podcast hosted by friends and fellow designers, me, Brie Batfield.
SPEAKER_00And me, Lauren Lee, with some amazing guest appearances along the way, we're here to break down everything from current trends to timeless style.
SPEAKER_01With a shared passion for joyful, colour-field and lived-in spaces, we're excited to share our insights and inspiration with you.
Setting Up 2026 Unhinged Predictions
SPEAKER_00And before we get started, I just wanted to remind you if you're listening that Brie and I run our own interior design practice. So if you need help with any of your interior design or decoration, just reach out to either of us. And today we are talking about our favorite unhinged design predictions for 2026.
SPEAKER_01We are, I've had a bit of fun scribbling on a piece of A4, a whole hip of stuff. And I don't know how unhinged it is because I don't know. I tried to think of anything crazy, but um this should be fun anyway.
SPEAKER_00What my unhinged is is maybe perfectly normal to someone else, and vice versa. Totally.
SPEAKER_01Totally.
SPEAKER_00Do you want to kick off, Brian?
Laminate Countertops Make A Comeback
SPEAKER_01Yeah, sure. Um, okay, my first one is a return of laminate countertops. Oh. So I feel like the offering for um laminate has changed quite a bit, and that we're doing a lot more kind of affordable design, smaller spaces, pushing back against the norm of um, you know, maybe being a little more humble in our spaces as well. So I think we're gonna see some more like really um efficient, affordable, but super stylish kitchens with laminate being like a big feature in them over like massive sort of stone island benches and splashbacks. So, like laminate and tile, for instance, it's probably a little bit retro in a way, but I I think we're gonna say more about it.
SPEAKER_00I am here for that because I I I hear what you're saying. Stone everywhere, it's very luxurious, but there is something humble about the laminate, but also joyful because you get these big colour block moments happening. Yep. And I have to say, I've got a 1960s kitchen, and and I think a few years ago the bench top was replaced, and it's just a black laminate. It is super hard wearing, it's super easy to clean, just very low maintenance.
SPEAKER_01Bring back laminate. And I also love the um, is it like the high pressure one with the kind of ply decorative exposed edge? I know there's a word that I'm probably supposed to be using for that, something like high pressure laminate.
SPEAKER_00Well, you can have a multiply edge.
SPEAKER_01Multiply.
SPEAKER_00Multiply. So is that what you mean? Like the layers of ply that you see. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I kind of like that against colour. Like it's just such a lovely warm detail, but it's very kind of like I said, sort of humble, and it's not being too bougie. It's like actually more about just like a really efficient family, a kitchen that gets used all the time. We know that's still really durable. Yeah, I kind of like that vibe and just less of like the kind of super polished, perfect kitchen and something that's just a little bit more um, I don't know, has a bit has a character in a in a different way.
Practical Edges And Cost-Smart Details
SPEAKER_00I agree. And I was just looking at that because um I'm doing uh desking areas for a home. So home, home office plus the kids' desks in their room, et cetera. And we um you can use like a multiply sort of substrate that the laminate gets put on top of. So you see the layers, but you can also that that's a little bit more expensive to do that. You can also use a your run-of-the-mill MDF board or whatever, and you can get an ABS edge, which looks exactly like that multiply. Yeah, and um, if you're familiar with Benchtop City, which I think is the most funnest name for a business.
SPEAKER_01Does that have like a really cool jingle? I feel like it should.
SPEAKER_00I think you just created it then. And they're just like the most loveliest family business anyway. Um, but they you can just get that ABS edge, that edging put on to the yeah. So um, yeah, just talking about that the other day, but yeah, I like that for an unhinged um prediction. I I'm on board. Yay.
SPEAKER_01Tick for number one. All right, what's yours?
Venetian Blinds Reimagined
SPEAKER_00I have an unhinged design prediction. I think that Venetian blinds are going to come back.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yes.
SPEAKER_00You know the black or all the the metal or aluminium, they're sort of like louvers, but they don't they're not set in a frame. They're just like Venetian blinds. I think I saw them, I've seen them a few places by the same designer. Um, in the Mecca store on Burke Street. They're in the cafe.
SPEAKER_01Really? Yeah, I'm trying to remember them in there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, it's just something I've had on my radar because the designers for the Mecca store on Burke Street and a lot of the Mecca stores and and Zimmerman, Scanland and Theedal, is Studio McQuilta.
SPEAKER_01That's right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Studio McQuilter, and they have a studio on Mulvern Road in Peran, and they have them in their studio window, but they're like powder coated, this beautiful, yeah, mustardy, greeny, unusual, pistachio-ish kind of colour. I haven't been past it for a while, but Venetian blinds, like I have to say it's sort of retro.
SPEAKER_01I don't know why, and maybe you can explain why in my head I'm thinking about uh, I think like movie sets and American Psycho. He must have had Venetian blinds. That's the movie that comes into my head. I'm thinking it's like this kind of like 80s corporate um shoulder pad vibes is like what comes to mind, but in a good way.
SPEAKER_00I think so. I I think um also, you know, we lived in South Yara in a rental for 10 years. We had them there, they were not chic. No, but they were this the narrow ones. What you want is the wide blade, right?
SPEAKER_01Okay, so the wider. And I think the only issue I have with them, and maybe this has changed over time, is you know, when they'd like not function well anymore. And so like one would be like slightly off. Yeah. And I'm like one of those people who will come to your house and start straightening your pictures. So if you've if I come to your house and you have Venetians and one of them's off, I'm like, I have to fix that. Yeah. And I'll be taking it apart and trying. But maybe the maybe the functionality's improved. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think so. Um, there's obviously different ranges of qualities, and yes, they can probably get tangled up or something, but I think the wider blade, it makes it they look um a bit cleaner than all the dicky little arrows. Not as many, yeah. Yeah, not as many, and you see them at the Scanland and Theodore stores in the window, sort of as a backdrop to the mannequins.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay, yes.
SPEAKER_00Um, and when you see them a few times, like let me know what you think. If it is unhinged or if you think it could be something, because if you think about it, totally practical. Yeah, because you can adjust how much stack them up, yep.
SPEAKER_01And you can also like how private things are. Yes, they well, it I as compared to say drapes, for instance, where no matter what you do, the all that fabric has to go somewhere if you want to open, right? Whereas that's gonna like disappear in maybe under a pelmet.
SPEAKER_00Totally. I also saw them. Do you know Golden, the the design studio called Golden? They have a kitchen where they've put them in and it looks really sharp. It looks good.
Function, Maintenance, And Store Sightings
SPEAKER_01They're actually pri uh probably quite practical in a kitchen too, because you can just wipe them clean as opposed to your Roman and like you know what? Give me Venetian blinds over um Venetian, isn't it? It's Venetian, yeah, yeah. Just had a moment there. What are the other ones? Vertical, the bad ones. They're really please. We're never bringing those back. The vertical ones. That's never say never. Oh god, please, please. Um so the Venetian blinds, give me those over a bloody rollerblind any day. Yeah, right. Any day, because rollerblinds are like a necessary evil half the time. And I just think they're very ugly. They are, yeah.
SPEAKER_00They look terrible when they're down.
SPEAKER_01There's never unless you unless they're hidden in a pelmet and you close them at night and then you never see them because you go to bed and you wake up in the morning and you hide them again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they're behind a sheer curtain or something.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Hmm. All right, that's a good one. Okay, my number two. Which one will I go with? I feel like this isn't that unhinged, but I'm gonna go there. I'm gonna say that home hangouts are gonna be like the new thing instead of going out. So friends all just like getting together at someone's house, huge sofas designing for more communal sort of spaces, massive comfort and character. So not like perfect, you know, neat little formal lounges, just like big hangout sofas, like, you know, modular, U-shaped, even like maybe like a pitch, like a conversation pit. And that's it. Yeah, you know, everyone brings a plate of food, or you know, you've got a big oven because you know you're gonna have like 20 people over on the weekend, or maybe not even 20, maybe it's just like eight or 10 or whatever. And, you know, watching movies, doing a puzzle, playing board games, playing cards. I think that's there's a big move towards that, and I think that will impact design of those spaces.
SPEAKER_00I am here for it. Okay, so moving away from the formal sitting upright, everything looking perfect, to the more loungy, hanging out with friends. And I mean, I think we sort of talked about that a bit in one of our trend predictions, the whole idea of people, cost of living, going out, expensive, come over to my home. I want my I want my friends to feel comfortable in my home.
Home Hangouts Over Nights Out
SPEAKER_01And also it's really lovely to have people in your home and appreciating, I don't know, a space you've created. We sort of do that a little bit. Um, and I guess I'm not talking about where it's like, I need to have this amazing space, and then my family's gonna come over and they're gonna think I'm so cool. It's more like going how comfortable they feel there, not how polished and perfect your home looks. It's more like they go, like, it's so great to hang out here. We love how warm it feels and how easy it is to just hang out in this space. It's more about that. So it's more about that emotive mood and how you comfortable you make people in your homes instead of how much they go, Oh, this is perfect. We don't really want to touch anything, but it looks amazing and congratulations, kind of thing.
SPEAKER_00Oh my gosh, I love that. You know, that was something that my friends and um when I when I was growing up, my mum's, you know, very house proud. You've been to my mum's house. Yes. She loves a lamp, many a lamp. She loves a lot of lamp, but in a good way. That people used to say, Oh, um, your home is so nice. Like um one of my friends, she uh we were in high school, she'd come over and we would just lounge on the couch and she'd looked around and she's like, Oh my god, you have a tassel hanging from every handle, knob, anything. Like it was just, but it oh, I I I think it was um, you know, my mum, yeah, was house proud. They were antiques, blah, blah, blah. But you could also relax there. So yeah. And that's, you know, sometimes it was a bit uptight. We had to live, couldn't put a, you know, glass down without the coaster. That was a bit much for me. And I've kind of just gone the other way, but yeah. Um, but yeah, I think that's yeah, it's not about impressing people, it's about making people feel at home.
SPEAKER_01Yes, that's it. That's the that's the shift. Like everybody, you know, I think we've got lots of people who are house proud in their lives that, you know, engage designers and you know, design world, but it's less about that, and it's more about, I mean, we it's still about going, this is a really cool space, but it's less about the impression of, oh, it looks really good. It's more about it being, yeah, it feels really good. And we talk about that a lot, but I think that's definitely the shift.
SPEAKER_00Well, can I follow up with another unhinged design prediction?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00Following on from my mum and her love of tassels. Oh, yes. I'm like where you're going. Do we think that tassels and trims and fringing is going to be making a bit of a comeback?
Comfort First, Not Perfection
SPEAKER_01I do. I think we're already seeing it, and I think it's going to get um even bigger, and it kind of leans into um, I'm just gonna throw my third one in because I feel like this is sort of in the same realm. Grandma chic, which I kind of hate that name, but I'm I'm talking like fringing, tassel, shintz, toil, like you know, detailed wallpaper and fabrics, done in a kind of modern way. I don't think we're gonna suddenly start being like all having, you know, afternoon tea with our china and nuts and stuff. I I'm here for that too, though. That like just mixing that in. Yeah, me shared. Like I love a cucumber sandwich. Love a cucumber sandwich. Um, but I feel like that leans into that, right? Like those gorgeous. I think it's it's kind of for me, it's going to be about less about the perfect English garden fabric. And I think it's about whimsy. I think that's probably the right word. And even like leaning into darker whimsy, like, you know, I guarantee, you know, that the Wothering Heights set design and even the fashion that's kind of come from that is going to um have a bit of an impact on interiors, and it probably already is. So it's kind of like it'll be whimsical. It'll be whimsical and romantic, and it can go dark or light or wherever. And so then that's tassels fringing. Yeah, I reckon. I think that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_00And it's also a way to add your own bespoke custom expression onto something like a cushion, um, a lamp shade, maybe. Uh I I would love to see a bit of fringing on a lampshade.
SPEAKER_01I did that once, and um, we used to do what it was called one of our subjects was basically like sewing. I don't even know what it was called now. And I made a lampshade with long tassels and soft pink.
SPEAKER_00I love that when to it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Don't know what that is.
SPEAKER_00What do they call it? Passamentary? Is that how you say it?
SPEAKER_01Fancy words that I do not know. Soft furnishings language. Passamentari.
SPEAKER_00Passamentary. Is that it? It's something you don't really get to the opportunity to say very often, but it's all of the fringing tape, okay, tassel. All of those, yeah, amazing details. Yes. Yeah, and I mean for some people that's never left, but I think maybe we'll be seeing it a little bit more going mainstream.
Tassels, Trims, And Modern Whimsy
SPEAKER_01I'm yeah, looking at I'm doing a project at the moment and actually looking at doing like there's a lot of drapes in there, and we're doing, you know, like the aprons under the sink, so the fabric instead of the doors. Great. So that'll be really fun. But I want to add fringing as well and just like amp up a couple of the details. So that's been really fun, just a deep dive into like what's possible. And and you're exactly right, like the way you can change just like an ordinary drape with a even just like a little ribbon detail or um, what did you call like a taping? What do you call that? Little braids, like braid, all of that. Like it's it's like a whole nother world.
SPEAKER_00It is. The textile company have some gorgeous ones.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_00So fun. Okay, so what have we we've talked about laminate, Venetian blinds, um home hangouts? Oh, home hangouts, tassels.
SPEAKER_01We'll get we'll call it whimsy because I hate grandma. Grandma Shake is the worst. I hate that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a bit too Whimsy's better. Yeah, okay. So I have another one colored stained glass. So we've seen some design issues.
SPEAKER_01For a minute, then I thought you were gonna say colored splashbacks, and I was like, no, that's very on hinge. So sorry. I have to just cut off the podcast right there.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, you know, one day I always say never say never. But no.
SPEAKER_01I'm talking of it's it's hopefully I I like to think when things come back, they come back in a slightly different way or they use slightly differently, or whatever. So you know, sorry.
SPEAKER_00It's really funny. One of my clients, she's having to live in a rental whilst the house is being built. And so we've had a few meetings there. The kitchen is red gloss, like a two-pack, and the two the splashback is a glass splashback with the printed design, it's like Pac-Man. And then they've got a little dicky chandelier in nightmares. Black flocked, sort of crystal-looking chandelier. I'll have to take a photo of it because she's does she have nightmares every night? Because I would I think so.
SPEAKER_01It's pretty funny. I think it would hurt me so much to live there that I would have to have therapy every day or something.
SPEAKER_00They're they're like, come on, builder, can we get this done any faster? So, yes. No, I was wasn't talking about coloured splash packs.
SPEAKER_01And let's be clear about when we talk about dark whimsy, we are not talking about bloody black velvet chandeliers with swath, swaskry. Oh my god, I'm gonna say show off swosky.
SPEAKER_00Is that right? Yeah, you're right.
SPEAKER_01Wrong with my mouth. Um, crystals hanging off them. Hilarious. That's not happening. That's not no.
SPEAKER_00That isn't too unhinged. Way too unhinged. Um, but yes, coloured stained glass, I've seen people use in their homes. So it could be a a feature window, sometimes in a staircase, you know, it's actually a really good solution in a way because, well, you know, if you've got a staircase that has a window, but you can't put a clear window, you can't put clear glazing because of overlooking the neighbors.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yes, right, gotcha. You could do a staircase. Like so, like in on the landing or something, sometimes there's a window, so there's light into that well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Actually, that's way better than you know, half the other results we see, which is frosted. I hate that. It makes me feel weird, like I'm kind of in a hospital or a prison or something.
SPEAKER_00Um I've seen vertical blinds on those windows.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, so yeah, stained glass also in bathrooms. Why okay? Could that be used for shower screen? I don't know. I'd have to check like regulations, it wouldn't be shadow. Is it shadow proof?
SPEAKER_01No, because it's quite, I don't think so. I mean, maybe you can get get that, but proper stained glass isn't. No. I'm seeing it in a lot of details too, even like let's say like a lampshade or like around a mirror or like I don't I don't know, in furniture details, I think it's coming through too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's quite beautiful.
SPEAKER_01I mean I love it.
SPEAKER_00I think even looking at your sh your top, it's got it's like a it's like a tartan, it's almost like that's the the design you could.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, like kind of a more geometric.
SPEAKER_00It's very geometric. I don't think we're seeing a pictorial sort of stained glass.
SPEAKER_01Australiana koalas and gumblings. Which is also cute. I'm actually just I am actually a bit of a fan of stained glass. And as long as it's like sort of original or it's been done in in a a way that's contextual to the home, I think it's actually really cool. Mind you, I did see when I was looking at rentals, I did see one in a home and it was, I think it was kind of Australiana or something, and it just there was no reason for it to be there, and it was one of the worst things I'd ever seen. Oh my god. Funny. But okay, yeah, I love that. Stone glass. And it's kind of like also kind of bringing back, you know, of like that would be craftsmanship that's getting lost. So it's nice if we can kind of bring things like that back into a modern context.
SPEAKER_00Agree.
Coloured Stained Glass With Purpose
SPEAKER_01All right, what's my next one? I feel like you'll be on board with this one, so it probably isn't that unhinged, but I think there are a lot of people who will think it's unhinged. No downlights at all in a house. New build. Everything is ambient or planned really well, and there's no like grids of downlights. I think people are really coming around and realizing how, I don't know, default and kind of cheap. I think like you can spend a lot of money putting down lights in, you know, because it used to be that you'd go, like, if you were doing a new build, you know, it comes standard with this one bulb in the middle of the room. Or do you want down lights? And then you pay for down lights, right? That was beautiful extra. Yeah. So people would be investing money to have down lights. And now I think we're going, downlights feel so wrong. Let's look at other ways to light a room. Like there are so many other ways to do it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think that it would seem absolutely wild to some people to say, what? No downlights. I don't want to live in the dark. Like that's ridiculous. Yes. But I think it's as you say, just to offer people other options, you know.
SPEAKER_01And I would say like even track lights are better, right? So I can direct them onto the wall. So I still it still becomes a bit more ambient. I'm highlighting an architectural detail or a piece of artwork.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah. So I'm like all for I love a track light.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, and you know, I think they kind of look more interesting too. I think the other problem is that there are still good and bad downlights too. Like, you know, a slightly recessed downlight's not going to give you the sort of glare that you do with just the average everyday downlight that gets put into, you know, en masse is probably the worst kind of downlight that you can have as well.
SPEAKER_00True. They are not all created equal.
SPEAKER_01They are not.
SPEAKER_00Another unhinged prediction, which is mirrored walls. So I feel like mirrored walls can feel like you're in some 80s nightclub or something. Or they can feel like a bit, I don't know, like 70s penthouse, like trying to be glamorous or something.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, 70s penthouse.
SPEAKER_01Can be done well.
SPEAKER_00They can be done well. Well, and I think and also maybe used a bit unexpectedly. I think it works well when it really is treated like a wall. So it's from floor to ceiling and it does give you that sort of illusion of a double space, which is quite and maybe it's a design rather than just like one big panel. Exactly. So it's divided up into like a a grid sort of thing. And sometimes you'll see like a little detail where the where that grid crosses over, like just to pick out just a bit of a detail there or something.
SPEAKER_01Um I think it's great in small spaces too, and to reflect light into spaces. Yeah. It's good in like entries that maybe there's light at the end of a, I don't know, hallway or something, and you're reflecting back the light that's down there into that space and also just making it feel a little bit less claustrophobic.
SPEAKER_00Or reflecting a view.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's cool. Yeah, that's cool. All right.
No-Grid Lighting And Track Ideas
SPEAKER_01That's a good one. All right. Well, my last one, and again, it's not, I wouldn't, there's parts of it that are unhinged. So the first bit I think you'll be on board with, because we've already talked about it, which is not designing for the before and after kind of thing. So it's not like going, here it is, and then I've just done a whole reno in like one month and now it's all perfect. And like that's the comparison. It's more about like leaning into taking the time to create a space, and it's not about the end shot. So it's like not as curated, which is kind of like what we've talked about with like, you know, no longer kind of like designing for the algorithm or designing for the Instagram shot. It's the same sort of thing. It's not, it's not about the end game of like, okay, let's get all this done. And then here's the perfect photo. It's sort of leaning into like, you know, the messy girl kind of aspect of things as well. Like it's not perfect, it's gonna take time. We have patience, it gives perspective just on life that we don't have to rush everything. Um, and just slowing down and evolving a space and living with it and then working out what works. And so it's like a, I don't know, it's like more of a design journey than a makeover.
SPEAKER_00So I love what you're saying because it leans into I'm looking for the perfect mirror. I'm looking for a perfect vintage mirror to go there. I can't go this weekend and find that. Yes. I can't just go into IKEA or Freedom and buy it. It's it takes time, it takes patience, as you're saying. Yeah. And I'm looking for it always on my radar. And when you find it, it's really rewarding.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And we talk about this too as designers, that we understand that there's time frames for things and that sometimes we want things done quite quickly or that you know, life needs to have a plan. But sometimes the best design just takes time to get there, you know, like, and and it's not a mistake to kind of almost change your mind as well. Like as things evolve, you kind of go like, actually, now that we've picked this great colour and I don't really, I don't want to do this anymore. I can see the value in doing this. So, like evolving a design rather than just kind of like churning it out gives you like a much better result in the end, and probably something you will live with for a lot longer than when you like rushed it just to kind of get it done.
SPEAKER_00Agree. And being open, being open to oh, I didn't think that I wanted a mirror like that, but um I love that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know, totally.
Mirrored Walls Used With Intent
SPEAKER_00My last unhinged prediction is seeing more avocado green in our spaces. So it's something I've noticed just looking at imagery, seeing avocado green. It's quite a divisive colour because it can look quite sickly, I think. But it can, I think if you mix it with warm timbers, yes, it works so well with warm timbers. Yeah, I think it needs to have the warm timbers. If you're mixing it just with white, I feel it's too sickly, maybe. It needs to have that warm, that deeper kind of companion colour.
SPEAKER_01It also works really well to kind of lean into it and have like really green-based yellows. So, like it just depends. Like, I feel like you can kind of like almost do gold and mustard and kind of bring the warmth with that. It doesn't have to be through timber. Having said that, I will challenge, and this will be very unhinged, avocado green, or like you know, a version of that with like a really beautiful kind of cobalt blue. Ooh. Chef's kiss.
SPEAKER_00I love that. Oh, so cool. Um, I wonder what we'll see in Milan this year, Brie. Can't wait. I know it's coming around.
SPEAKER_01I'm excited for. I always I'm I think one of the biggest things I get excited for is being challenged because I feel like I know everything, right? Which I don't. But you know, like you go like I you do get to a point where you feel like you've seen everything and it's hard to get excited. Like we see beautiful things, but I want to be challenged and go like, I never thought of this, or I love that combination of things, or that's the stuff I look forward to.
Design As A Slow Journey
SPEAKER_00And also, oh, I don't like that. Why don't I like that? Like I I think that's just saying, like being challenged. Yeah, like that's so interesting. I never would have thought that. And at first, I think the first time you see something, yeah, kind of like you're not used to seeing it. You're like, I don't like that a lot. But then you get used to it and you see it again and again, and next thing you know, it's the color everyone's loving or the theme everyone's loving.
SPEAKER_01So I'm like that. Sometimes with music, I might hear something, I might love the artist, and then I hear it and go, hmm, doesn't really, and then I hear it again and go, actually, it's like starting to seep into my brain now. And then by the third time, I'm like, I love this song. So sometimes you don't love something straight away. Yeah. Often I do. But yeah, things have to grow on you.
SPEAKER_00That's true.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that was so fun, Brie. That was, it was good. I like all of those predictions, and maybe they're not so unhinged. Let's see.
SPEAKER_00Maybe I'm the one that's unhinged.
SPEAKER_01I'm there with you. You already know I'm very unhinged. All right, thanks.
SPEAKER_00Talk next time. Bye.
SPEAKER_01Bye.
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