Design Anatomy
Welcome to Design Anatomy, where we examine the world of interiors and design. With a shared passion for joyful, colour-filled, and lived-in spaces, Bree Banfield and Lauren Li are excited to share their insights and inspiration with you.
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Design Anatomy
Pendants to Portables: How Thoughtful Lighting Shapes Mood, Function, and Style
Your home changes the moment the lights come on. We unpack how to design that moment with intention—layering pendants, sconces, table lamps and portables—so evenings feel warm, useful and calm without relying on a ceiling full of downlights. With our shared love of colour, we explain why lighting often matters just as much for mood, comfort and character, and we walk through specific fixtures that deliver both beauty and function.
We start with a clear framework: ambient light for glow, task light for clarity, and accent light to draw the eye. Then we get practical.
Bree & Lauren share some of their favourite lights from Flos’ Superwire pendant that hides a smart downlight to Time & Style’s refined washi shades, we explore pieces that shift a room from flat to layered.
We talk through Articolo’s 12:40 sconce and its clever forward/back glow, Marz Designs’ handcrafted Australian options, and the quiet revolution of portable lamps—perfect for renters, dining tables and outdoor evenings.
If you love icons, we spotlight Wästberg’s Chipperfield lamp and the Snoopy table lamp classic for timeless pools of flattering light. If sculpture is your thing, meet Guy Bareff’s illuminated forms. For architectural texture, we look at Volker Haug x Flack Studio’s Bruce. And for daily ritual, the Santa & Cole Cesta lamp delivers a soft lantern glow you’ll reach for every night.
You’ll also get budget-friendly strategies: where to hunt vintage, how a simple paper shade can transform a room, and what to watch for with limited-edition collaborations. If this sparked ideas, subscribe, share with a design-loving friend, and leave a quick review—what’s the one light you can’t live without?
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Welcome to Design Anatomy, the Interior Design Podcast hosted by friends and fellow designers, me, Bree Banfield. And me, Lauren Lee, with some amazing guest appearances along the way. We're here to break down everything from current trends to timeless style.
SPEAKER_01:With a shared passion for joyful, colour-filled and lived-in spaces, we're excited to share our insights and inspiration with you. So, Bri, what's been going on this week?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, everything. I feel like we're hitting that time of year, aren't we, where everything wraps up just a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:As we head towards Christmas.
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SPEAKER_01:So much fun. I know it's like I was gonna say, I really got a Christmas party invitation, but that's not really rude, is it? But no.
SPEAKER_00:This is the I think everyone's just scaring us with like talk of Christmas, but someone said to me the other day, so it'd be less now. It was 90 days until Christmas. And so I think it was maybe last week. So there you go.
SPEAKER_01:There you go. I know I feel like it's uh you need to really decide what you're gonna do for the next few months and really give it like that last push, you know.
SPEAKER_00:That's where I'm at. Calendar sorting, all of that stuff, make sure you achieve what you wanted to achieve.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you only got 90 days to do it. I know, right? Um, I was thinking well, I I went down to Sorrento yesterday and had a really fun consultation with some um clients. It's just an interior design consultation, like we just give advice on the spot and give them the notes back. And I thought, you know, if you're listening and you're thinking, oh gosh, I think I need to do that. I want to round that out before the end of the year. You know, you can contact Bree, you can contact myself.
SPEAKER_00:And it's the time to do it, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, now's the time. Like, you know, you can get the get the advice that you need and maybe even start implementing some of it over the Christmas break if you've got some downtime.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I've got a couple that I also just did last week that have jumped straight on and are basically fast tracking things so they can order it and have it before Christmas. But you know, we we can obviously look at in-stock items and things like that. So things can still be done.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, totally, totally. Um, I'm excited tomorrow because I'm holding one of my workshops for the design process. Oh, amazing. Yeah, so I was in Sydney the other day and hanging out at the Ace Hotel. I was just hoping for some of the cool vibes to rub off on me, but unfortunately it didn't. You're cooler than the Ace. It's so gorgeous there, isn't it? But um, we're we're gonna be at uh the forum in Cremon, so it's like a beautiful co-working space tomorrow. That's exciting. And then if you are you know interstate or you're thinking, oh god, I'd love to do that, but I just can't carve out the time, I get it. So we're doing this online as well. So you can jump online with us. It's like a live learning session on Zoom. We go through the content, ask me questions, like put me on the spot, like ask all of the things, like if you've got something that's in the back of your mind, or but how does she do that? Like, I want to know, you can ask. So it's really good, and I have to say, I think we're quite used to talking online. I mean, you and I we talk online all every week, obviously. Um, but it's uh you can create that really nice sense of community online online too.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely, I think so. Yeah, it's great you get to do both. You've got that um access for people who can't be there in person, and the people that want to be there in person and soak up all the lorineness can be there.
SPEAKER_01:Oh god. Well, I think the thing with the online as well is that it's recorded, so you can think, oh, you know what? I can't catch, I can't catch it this week. But when I'm in the car, I'm gonna just let that play and listen along whilst I'm doing something else. Perfect. Just like us. I'm sure you're in the car right now listening to us somewhere. Exactly. So today we want to talk about lighting, and I feel like because we are so we are such big believers in the power of colour and how that can change the way you feel in a space. I think we prioritize colour, we think about colour a lot, but I'd have to say a very close second would be lighting.
SPEAKER_00:Totally, and I feel like we do, we do seem to mention a lot because we just know what a massive difference it makes in a space. And that's just the lighting source, right? What we're gonna talk about today is also what looks amazing, not just functions really well. You know, it's just such a, I don't know, it's the I like to think it's like the jewelry in the interior, like they're often the little pretty things or I don't know, the small little statement things that kind of make the make or break the space in a way.
SPEAKER_01:True. I actually met with a potential client this morning and she said that her husband really loves like soft moody lighting. I was like, what a cool thing about you to say I was like, all right, let's cut, let's have some fun with the lighting. And especially when you've got, you know, a space that feels quite open and like a big volume. I think lighting is key in making it feel like in the evenings that you are a sense of atmosphere, a sense of enclosure. Yeah, and just layering on all the different types of lighting. So we're gonna share our top five lights. Do you want to start, Brees? I'm give it a go.
SPEAKER_00:Um, okay, so uh in no particular order for me, and I could probably uh I do have a slight lamp obsession, so I haven't, I've tried not to go too crazy and just it all be lamps. So I'm in the club. Start with, I don't write. Start with a um with a pendant, and that's the super wire suspension pendant designed by former Phantasma for floss. Ooh, let me see. So it's very elegant, but I think it's also quite industrial looking. So it's uh elongated, there's a few different types, but the one I'm talking about is the pendant, sort of an elongated shape, and then at each end is a hexagon shape. So the actual facets are in a hexagon. And I think what I love about it is even though it sort of has this industrial kind of vibe, it's not heavy, it's really light. It's like a I think it's a cast aluminium or a polished aluminium detail. And the light is LED, but it's like a new technology. So it's like a like an LED, like a band. So it's a long continuous light. So inside each pendant section is like these beautiful long LED light sources that I don't know, it kind of reminds me of, you know, the fancy lights, the with the, you know, that you put in the exposed, uh, the exposed those globes you put in the exposed kind of pendants that have the fancy, uh it's like an old-fashioned filament, the bit that lights up. Filament, that's the word. Oh, so it's like a really long filament. So it almost kind of has like a neon vibe to it, but it's not neon, it's got this beautiful soft glow to it, and it's it's L E T. Okay, so there's strips. It's called the Super Wire suspension pendant. Oh, right. I think Lemming Edge probably stock it over here. Um the floss slider, or there'll be other stockers as well. And the other cool thing it does from a functionality, so it's beautiful, but from a um functionality point of view, so there's three sort of sections, these elongated hexagon sections with the facets that you can see the lights in. In the middle of those is like a hidden down light. So if it's over a kitchen or a dining table and you need light on the surface below, not just ambient, it's got a little down light there. So it's quite cool.
SPEAKER_01:I think that might be my new favorite light too.
SPEAKER_00:I think you would love it. I think we would really love it. And it I think there's a floor lamp and some other versions of it in the same thing. But yeah, it's just it's it's got such a warmth to it, a lightness to it, and yet it has that great kind of industrial architectural edge to it. Like that's what I kind of like about it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it does. I think that filament going running through that shape. It does, it doesn't feel techy, it feels sort of there's a nostalgic vibe, something. Yes, yes, yeah. I love it.
SPEAKER_00:Um, what's yours? What's your first one?
SPEAKER_01:There's a light that I've seen. I mean, I love the Akari lights. I love those. The rice paper lights that you see. You see like a huge big uh rice paper sort of sphere. Rice paper. No, that's the one that you eat, isn't it?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know if that's I think it might be is it rice paper?
SPEAKER_01:Is it rice paper can be?
SPEAKER_00:Well, I know that um the traditional, you're washi, the traditional lamps are um, but I think let's say washi.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Anyway, we know what you mean.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they're you know, they're beautiful. Uh I think they're classic, but I do want to sometimes think of something different. There was a light that I saw, I think it was in a name drop now, when I went to Stockholm Furniture Fair, it was five years ago, by this brand called Time and Style. Oh yeah, yeah. They're exceptional. So the they're the washi paper as well, but they have like a bent wood frame. So they're a little bit more structured than the Akari lights. And you don't, I mean, the Akari lights, I get the appeal because it's that beautiful glow and all of the things, but you do see them a lot in interiors. They have, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And unfortunately, they are one of those lamps that have been copied a bit, and as much as I love them, uh I feel like that always diminishes how much we want to use it. But yes, yes, yeah. I know the ones you're talking about, they're just I guess a little bit more unique now, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the the ones by time and style, they are a bit more unique. They still give you that beautiful warm glow. Um I mean the Akari ones are very refined, but I think these ones are a little next level refined. Um and they're stunning and they have a pretty stunning price point to match as well.
SPEAKER_00:Honestly, um, I when I put this list together, I went, ooh, I probably should have added some kind of more affordable ones, but this is all very aspirational, you know. We'll we'll tell you the things that are beautiful and why. That's right. Maybe we'll do another uh podcast of like, you know, here's this, but what about this? Yeah. So we've got options. Um I just looked up washi paper, by the way. It is rice paper. Washi paper is rice paper. Oh, interesting. It's made from the inner bark of the mulberry tree. It's a type of rice paper. Well, it says a type of rice paper. Oh, okay, cool. Derived from the inner bark of a mulberry tree. So maybe it's maybe rice paper means not necessarily made from rice. I don't know. Yeah, we have to dive deeper into that. Yeah, that's a whole thing.
SPEAKER_01:But I was curious, I was like, oh, is it rice paper? Yeah, I don't know. When I said rice paper, I was like, no, isn't that what you wrap like wontons in and stuff?
SPEAKER_00:No, yeah, uh, or nougar. Oh, you know how you've got the paper on the nougar and you can eat it. I love it. Well, my next one is some wall sconces from Articolo, which is probably we both love Articolo as a brand. Stunning lighting. I feel like I've used them a bit in projects where it's just the thing that elabates the room, like absolutely invested in these beautiful lights, and you can tell that they're quality and you know that they're a bit special. So they did release a few new lights earlier this year, I think. We saw them over in Milan, and one of them is the 1240, which is a long wall sconce. But what's really cool is you can have it forward-facing light or back facing light. So forward facing, you see, you know, the ambient light, and back facing you have like a surface, say it's um traboteen or stone, and the light kind of emanates from behind onto the wall. So I think it's just like a really beautiful elegance. I love the the scale of it as well. Like it's not too big, but it's like big enough to kind of perfect kind of bathroom light next to a mirror, especially the ambient one or hallway light, you know, next to beds over bedsides. But yeah, I mean, I do really love their stuff and I love the finishes they offer. They're all sort of quite beautiful finishes, you know, they have a lot of different brass and stone combinations, and their glass, like that beautiful blown glass that they use, is quite gorgeous. Exceptional.
SPEAKER_01:I think when I first saw that light, I was so excited because it just fills such a gap in projects. Like as you say, the bathroom vanity. When you want to put your makeup on, you can pivot that light so it's shining onto your face, but in the evenings you can pivot it and it shines onto the wall, as you say. So you're getting more of that ambient light. So it's kind of two lights in one.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I was so excited. I love it. And Nikki is such a cool designer.
SPEAKER_00:She is, yeah. Great company.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I have another that I want to share, which is uh also a female designer. Um, her name is Coco Reynolds, and her brand is called Mars. She's so cool. Yeah. So she has been designing lighting, I feel like for a long time. It said on her website that her business was founded in 2019, but I remember her going way back. Maybe it was under her own name then.
SPEAKER_00:That's really interesting because absolutely. Um, that might be, I think perhaps it was a different name, but you remember the bead light, the pendant? Yeah. So it was all these wooden beads and then an exposed bulb. That was ages ago. Oh no, no, would have been. I was definitely before 2019. Yeah, yeah. But I know that was horribly copaged, like everywhere copage, and that was really disappointing because it was such a great lie, and then I feel like it was everywhere. So yeah. Yeah. Anyway, yes, I think she has been around longer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but there's and she maybe it's now she's based in Byron Bay, and so they work with a lot of local artisans in that area. But there's I I I tried to choose one, but I honestly couldn't choose. And I think the the thing is they're all really um, depending on the application, they're made to order, they're handcrafted. They use a lot of different natural materials, yeah, like ceramics, timber, metals. Um, and I think she's quite affordable too, don't you? It's doable. Yeah, yeah. They're doable. There's some in glass that's absolutely stunning. Totally. I um, you know, Articular, I love them, but they they are sometimes a bit of a push to get them into projects.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that it's a high-end product for that.
SPEAKER_01:It's a high-end product, and you know, Mars Designs has high-end product as well, but there are also other options which are doable, more affordable, gorgeous feature lighting, wall, especially the wall lights. I think she does amazing wall lights. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Me too. I love them. Gorgeous. And she's just such a beautiful person. I love being able to support a female designer doing really well, and particularly in that kind of field. Definitely. Not just interiors, but actually product design. Yeah, yeah. Very cool. All right, I'll uh go on to a cute one, which is also launched this year at Milan, which is the Gelato Portable Lab. Do you remember this? It's it looks like an ice cream. So it's established in Sun's and it's like a little glass kind of holder that looks like an ice cream dish, like a little gelato ice cream dish, like a little sundae. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And then the light is just this sphere that sits in it, like a like a basically a big scoop of ice cream sits inside this glass bowl. But they have the a it's portable. So I'm really into portable lamps at the moment. I just feel like I can put them in places where, you know, especially if you're renting and you go like, I need a lamp here, and you can't have one because there's no PowerPoint, dining tables where you can have a lamp. I mean, obviously in hospitality, it's made a huge difference being able to have portable lamps on tables on your kitchen bench where maybe it's the island bench and you don't want a cord there. Portable lamps are like so good for that. Um, you can take it outside, not necessarily if it's raining, but like, you know, you can put it outside on a table if you're sitting outside to eat. And anyway, so this one's portable. So what it does is the um there's no cord coming out of the glass space. That's literally like a glass dish. And then the ice cream, the sphere, you just turn it around the other way and it has the little magnetic charger for it. It's just an LED. And then when it's charged, you just turn it back around again so you can't see any of the like outlets or anything. It just looks like this round globe of beautiful light. And, you know, importantly, I think you can replace the LED and all of that. Uh, and the colours are really cute. There's a mint green, which I really love. Um, there's a spritz, which is like an apparel orange colour. There's a blue and a grey, but they're really cool. I don't know what the price point is, to be honest. I haven't checked, but I find a lot of those are, you know, I guess reasonably affordable in terms of something special.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:That you can kind of buy that sits, you know, somewhere, somewhere cool. Anyway, and I'd love to see a few of them together with the colours because of it.
SPEAKER_01:That is cute. Yeah. Yeah, we've got a few of the portable menu, or now they're called auto carry labs. And as you say, like when you're renting, you know, we've got this kitchen that was designed in 1961. And I love I love the retro-ness of it. And it's still functional, but there's not great lighting in the kitchen. So we just have one hanging above our cooking area. So stuff like that that you yeah, when you you can have a light just right where you need it. Um, yeah, love that. Another one that I love is by Wastberg, Wastberg, I'm not sure how you're pronounced. Do you know what I mean? There's one, it's called the Chipperfield Light. It was released, I'd have to say, 10 years ago. Yeah. Yep. And it's a table lamp. It's got a round base with a stem that comes up, and it's a 90-degree, 90-degree arm with a round uh light sort of head that the light can just uh be directed down. It's a great desk lamp and it's a great bedside table lamp. And I just think it's really elegant, comes in a brass finish, which is really it's really special. So that's just one I've specified that over the years. Sometimes I think, oh, what's new? What do I need to specify that's new? But I I think can appreciate like I mean, not 10 years, it's not like it's a really, really old, but you know what I mean. You totally get what you mean though. Yeah, yeah. You can just go back and think, no, that's that's really classic. I love that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, speaking of classic, same thing. This was actually designed in the 60s, and it's probably one of my all-time favorite lamps, and it's the the Snoopy, the Snoopy lamp. Oh, you have to have one of those. It's like, why don't I already own it? Yes, because I think it's about$2,000. But um, one day I will. One day. So it's it's looks like Snoopy. That's literally why it's called that. It was designed by, I think, is it uh Castiglione, Castiglione, Giacomo Castiglione, uh, in 67. And then they updated it with new technology as they did a lot of things um in the early 2000s. But the one I love is not the black one, which is very classic Snoopy. I really love the blue one. So that's got like a beautiful kind of not quite navy, not quite cobalt blue enameled glass top that's got kind of the Snoopy shape, it's basically like a similar shape to Snoopy's head. And then the base is the Carrara marble. So they've got it has to have a weighted base because the head part of it, the light part, is kind of on a slight angle. So it has this gorgeous kind of angular lean to it.
SPEAKER_01:It does it's sort of cantilevers. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Because of that weight in the base, it sort of has a has a heaviness to it that's sort of, I think it's the enameled glass as well, with that sort of curb shape. There's like this lovely chunkiness to it, like it's almost makes it look soft when it's hard. I don't know if that's a good way to put it.
SPEAKER_01:No, I love it. That's a no-brainer. You need to have that light, so we need to organize that somehow. I know, I know. Living edge, come on, yeah, come on. Yes, donate. Um, a a maker that I discovered through Instagram is uh called Guy Baref. So he's a French sculptor. Guy Baref, is that how they say it in French? I think so. You would know more than me. They are like illuminated sculptures. So, yeah, yeah. If you uh if you're out and about or whatever, they're beautiful. They're stunning. I can't even describe it, but they're they're almost skeletal, some of the forms.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Neolithic or something like I'm not Neolithic, that's not the right word, but you know, like um kind of prehistoric kind of vibes.
SPEAKER_01:In in a really refined way, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, yeah. Not sorry, not in a like yabba dabba-doo kind of way. I'm thinking more like, you know, um alien Prometheus kind of way.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:And people are like, what are these references?
SPEAKER_01:What is she talking about? No, you'll have to look it up. Guy Barref. So he's he works in France. He creates very limited edition sculptures, illuminated, uh, some other illuminated, I think it's ceramic. Oh when we were um in Paris, we saw one. There was one in the showroom of um Christopher Delcourt. Um just one of the many, many things going on. I was like, oh, that's one of the guy ref illuminated sculptures. So we need to catch up with him next. I think we should. We'll drop in and say bonjour. Bonjour, bonjour. Oh, so that is that's an amazing act. Stunning. That's a great find. Very original showing me that. Yeah, so cool, aren't they? They're stunning. Really? Um, so you know, if you're looking at you know projects, I think I discovered him when I was running the the new French look, especially in the south of France region. There are doses throughout the projects.
SPEAKER_00:Does Sophie stock his stuff or is that? Oh, she would definitely know of him. Yeah. I don't know why. I thought maybe she had some. Okay, also my last one is Australian designers Volka Haag. How could I not include them? Volka, I I guess I've known for a really long time and have used his lights a lot in in shoots and and specified a few. They're just quite unique. I think when he first started out, if you go back and look at his um back catalogue of lighting, it's stuff that you hadn't really seen before. It was really cool, really interesting, quite sculptural, a lot of it quite custom or customizable. Um, and he just did a great collaboration with Flack Studio with David Flack. I think they I think that came about when they created something for Troy Savanne's uh apartment, which that light is actually really cool too. But the one that I cut, I like all of them, but the one I kind of look at and keep going, I'm gonna get this into a project is Bruce. It's called Bruce. And it's like a cast aluminium, or I think it'd be aluminium or brass, like a grid. So it's just it's really simple. It's just a grid style, three-dimensional grid with diffuse light behind it, and it comes in a few different shapes, like well, a few different sizes, as in how many grids and whether it's elongated or six by six, yeah. But it's even though again, I'm kind of getting into this sort of slightly more graphic industrial style, but that still has this softness. And because of the way the light is diffused, it's so warm. And um, I guess the materials, even though their metals are quite warm, sort of looking metals. I really love that one. I love the simplicity of it. I love that collaboration, it's really cool. Two, two very cool people. Yeah, and then it's Melbourne, too, you know, kind of back on Melbourne. Well, you know, coming back. Sorry, everyone else.
SPEAKER_01:Coming back to the Ace Hotel, I'm pretty sure that in the conference room they had those lights up there. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So yes, yes.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe that was something that Volka made back then as well. Ah, quite possibly. Yeah. My last one is a light that I have owned for a long time. It's by Santa and Cole. You can get those through a jar in Melbourne, but um, it's called the Sesta Lamp, and it's kind of like a sort of a an egg shape, glass, a white glass, almost a symmetrical egg shape. And it's held in a timber sort of little frame. And it's got a little handle as well. It comes in a portable version.
SPEAKER_00:I love this one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and it just has a beautiful glue now, isn't it? Yeah, and it's just a lamp that we put on every single day. You move house and it goes here, it goes there. I love it. I love there's something really I gravitate towards that shape.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's very anything with the handle, I love like it's I guess it's harking back to you know, having a lantern and like holding up and going, who goes there? I don't know. There's something kind of weirdly nostalgic about it. It is, but um, it's very kind of, I feel like that is the quintessential Scandinavian lamp. Like, as in, like if you're going to like go for that look and have the beautiful timber combination, that sort of finish, I don't know, Scandinavian vibe. I feel like that's the lamp. It's such a classic. I think it'll always be. There you go. That's timeless. I don't know why, but I reckon that one's timeless. Yeah. Maybe it's got something to do with the hot the who goes there thing. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Well, strangely enough, I don't think it's actually a Scandinavian design. I think it's spider. That's funny. Yeah, but I I totally agree with you. It fits within that aesthetic that we've got.
SPEAKER_00:I just I just feel like that's where it started to be seen, was when there was that rise of Scandinavian um style and it just fits it so perfectly, that kind of Nordic combination of materials. Agree. Um, yeah, no, I love it too. Oh, I didn't even know you had one of those. I've probably noticed it a million times, but it's such a great lamp.
SPEAKER_01:I can't believe you didn't notice my lamp.
SPEAKER_00:We should have a um, we maybe we'll take photos of all the lamps in our house and post them because I've got quite a few. Yeah, let's count. And I've got a new I've got a new vintage lamp, which I probably should have talked about, um, which is an 80s Italian. I remember the branch now off the top of my head now that I've put myself on the spot, um, from Angelucci that I accidentally bought. You know, my my wallet fell open and landed on the F machine and it beeped.
SPEAKER_01:And I was like, It can happen. It can happen. Oh, that's exciting.
SPEAKER_00:I know I love it. It's and you know, I bought it ages ago and I still haven't unwrapped it. It's just sitting upstairs because I moved house as well, but it's just sitting upstairs because I I'm funny about new things. I need to know where they're gonna go, and I don't put place them until I know exactly where they're gonna go, and then I'll unwrap it and put it there. So I think I'm gonna put it in my bedroom. That one's good. I love it so much.
SPEAKER_01:You should. Um, yeah, I bought a lamp as well. And I guess you know, you mentioned sort of affordability. Leonard Joel auctions, you just never know what you can find. Oh, that's right. What did you get? Well, I got this, it's a red Danish lamp, that's what it's called.
SPEAKER_00:And I just look at us buying red lamps. I don't know. Is yours red too?
SPEAKER_01:Mine's red, yes. It's the unexpected red theory that's become quite expected. Exactly. But um, yeah, I mean, it was I think it was$120 or something.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my god, that's excellent.
SPEAKER_01:And it's not early.
SPEAKER_00:Is it a table lamp? It's a it's a floor lamp.
SPEAKER_01:It's a floor lamp. It's sort of um, it's very simple, it's really cute. Um, I think the the important thing I guess I'd like to get across if you're listening is you don't have to spend a lot of money, but just yeah, that's so true. You can go to the auction houses, you can go to IKEA, you can pick up a lab, it's more the the lighting effect. Um, you just don't want to have a space just with downside.
SPEAKER_00:That's the most important bit.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, and and as we said, we have obviously mentioned, you know, uh some variable price points, but a lot of them are probably a bit more designer and at a higher price point, you know, and and beautiful aspirational pieces. But absolutely, I can't, I if I ever go to IKEA even just to pick one thing up, I always walk through the lighting area just in case there's just like a lamp that I just want to grab or a lampshade. Even that they do, you know, just the basic big paper round lampshade, and that goes a long way in a bedroom. Like it's I don't know, what are they like$15 or something? Maybe not even that. Crazy. And put that instead of if you've got like one of those batten um basic globes in a bedroom because you're in a house where lighting hasn't been put in or you can't afford to put any lighting in yet, you get one of those and you put that over and it changes the whole room. It's so impactful, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And they often have collaborations with designers as well.
SPEAKER_00:They just did the what's his name? West West. Oh my god, I'm gonna forget his name. Yeah. Um, I'm gonna look it up while we're talking, but I tried to see whether the um the lamp was over here because that's the only problem with the um collaborations with IKEA, is sometimes you see them come through and they have really limited stock come through in um Australia. Uh Gustav Westman, God, what was I trying to say? Do you know him? He does quite really cool, quirky, colourful stuff. Um, big on Instagram, big on socials. And so he's done some um tableware, but he did have a really cool lamp. But I think it was only if you didn't line up on the day when it was released. I know someone who got one. I jumped online and not even online. Don't even yeah, can't even see it saying it's not in stock. It just isn't there. Yeah. So check back every now and then because I feel like when those things get released, then they kind of sometimes just come back again. And I think you can put a watch on it. Yeah, you can have like a wish. So I've done that with a chair before and ended up getting it, but it took me a couple of months.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, I mean, I have to say, yeah, they did a collaboration with hay. I think I've talked about a lamp I bought IKEA with hay. It's such a great light source, such a great lamp. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:What does that one look like? I don't remember the hay lamp. It's kind of I've got the um Celestia, what is it the Celestia? Celestina. God, I'm really good with the name.
SPEAKER_01:Is that the Marcellus?
SPEAKER_00:Yes, thank you. Yeah, Sabina Marcellus. The donut. Yeah, the donut.
SPEAKER_01:The orange donut. Yeah, that's so gorgeous.
SPEAKER_00:I'm just turning one name into two names into one today. Celestina. That's just a new one.
SPEAKER_01:Write that down. That's a beautiful name.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I love that. Um I call it the donut lamp just because it's, you know, basically in the shape of a donut. It's really cool. It's like an orange glow. So I love that one. And you can hang that on the wall.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So it's like a sconce that you can just plug in so it doesn't have to be hardwired. So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So many. It's a lighting obsessions. Yes. So, you know, maybe have a look up some of the ones we've mentioned, but don't but get put off by the price. Shop around, go on to marketplace, go on to the auctions.
SPEAKER_00:Marketplace is another great spot to try and find some interesting lighting, too.
SPEAKER_01:I've I've never bought lighting. I don't really buy a lot from Marketplace, but my mum's obsessed.
SPEAKER_00:I love your mum.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, she's so obsessed. She has that IKEA lamp as well that you mentioned that the orange donut. Yeah, it's so cool. She's I think she's got about 50 lamps in her lounge room. She's just out of control.
SPEAKER_00:As well as all that. Doesn't she also love candles?
SPEAKER_01:So she candles and lamps, or is it more loves everything? Oh, what do you call them?
SPEAKER_00:The chotchotchkis, the chotchkis.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, all of it. Is that the word? Plants are everywhere. She's got a bark of a bar. She's got yeah, anyway.
SPEAKER_00:I got a couple of bar carts. They're easy to buy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They come in handy for things.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, definitely. Especially my mum, since that's what she kind of does now. She's retired. Yeah. Sits at home next to her bar cart and she's with her lamps on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And a bit of wine. She's making cocktails. I'm giving away all this.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, she's giving her best life. I love it. I love it too. Okay. So there was no hope for me and my lamp obsession. It was part of my DNA.
SPEAKER_00:So did you see I sent you um when we talked about uh you were talking about that chair that it was, I think it was another top five, and you're talking about um the comma chair. Yeah. And someone sent us a message on Instagram saying Lauren sounds like she's that like an alcohol's anonym anonymous, but it's chairs anonymous, and it sounds like it now again about lamps. Did someone say that? That's hysterical.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00:And she does, and that's what we love. Like we've got obsessions and we're happy.
SPEAKER_01:This is a safe space. If you're also a chairholic, you are welcome. Join us.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, thank you for sharing that today, too, Lauren.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks, Brie.
SPEAKER_00:You've opened my eyes to some new ones, which I'll now forget the names of.
SPEAKER_01:Same. I loved that first, the super wire. I love that first one that you shared. That was so gorgeous.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's very good.
SPEAKER_01:All right, talk soon. See you guys. Bye. We've got the utmost respect for the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. They're the OG custodians of this unceded land and its waters, where we set up shop, create, and call home and come to you from this podcast today. A big shout out to all of the amazing elders who have walked before us, those leading the way in the present, and the emerging leaders who will carry the torch into the future. We're just lucky to be on this journey together.